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The Trouble with the Trinity

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"The Trouble with the Trinity, A Layman-to-Layman Study of the Biblical Evidence for the Triune Nature of God" is the title of a book I have been working on for 28 years.  It is finally complete and it was accepted for publication by the second publisher I contacted, Covenant Books.   You can view the promotional YouTube video and purchasing information on the Trouble website. What follows are entries made at earlier times.

 

The Trinity is an intricately simple concept that Christians tend to accept without spending the requisite time studying. That is its trouble. Many believers accept its simple aspect without taking the time to explore its intricacy. As a result, they miss 1) a wealth of information that can only be gleaned by studying every verse in God’s Word that links a name for a member of the Godhead with a nearby word or concept for God and 2) the amazing Symbol that perfectly conveys the fullness of the intricate nature of the Three-in-One God.

 

The Symbol that conveys the fullness of the Triune Godhead that became apparent during the preparation of this book is the Star of David, the Magen David!  This hexagram, made of double intertwining lines, consists of two, inner, inverted triangles and two outer triangles enclosing the inner ones.  Thus there are six inner sides or spans and two outer triangles.  Each of the inner spans consists of 1) those themes identifying the Father as God, 2) those identifying the Son as God, 3) those identifying the Holy Spirit as God, 4) those identifying the Father and the Son as God, 5) those identifying the Father and the Holy Spirit as God and 6) those identifying the Son and the Holy Spirit as God.  The first outer Triangle consists of those themes confirming the existence of One God and the second outer triangle corresponds to those identifying the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as God. 

 

Thus God, by recording in His Word in nearly 1000 verses all the possible ways and combinations that help us understand that He is Three-in-One, has prepared us to see why this historically relevant, Jewish Symbol is the perfect symbol to convey deep insights into His Godhead.

 

Here is a crude table of contents:

Foreword . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .3 

CHAPTER 1, THE BEGINNING . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .12 

CHAPTER 2, THE TROUBLE . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .16 

CHAPTER 3, IS THE FATHER GOD? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 19 

CHAPTER 4, IS JESUS GOD? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .29 

CHAPTER 5, IS THE HOLY SPIRIT GOD? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .45 

CHAPTER 6, ONE GOD, TWO GODS, THREE GODS, MORE? . . .58 

CHAPTER 7, IS THE FATHER AND THE SON GOD? . . . . . . . . . . .85 

CHAPTER 8, IS THE FATHER AND THE HOLY SPIRIT GOD? . . . .122 

CHAPTER 9, IS THE SON AND THE HOLY SPIRIT GOD? . . . . . . 136 

CHAPTER 10, IS THE THREE TOGETHER GOD? . . . . . . . . . . . . . 154 

CHAPTER 11, WHY THIS SYMBOL? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 173 

CHAPTER 12, UNDERSTANDING THE TRINITY. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .205

 

Here is a crude (C) version of this Symbol:

                                          

 

The finished version is Figure 11-1 in the book.  If you are intrigued that the Magen David, a well-known Jewish symbol, can also be a symbol of the Triune God, perhaps you will find what goes on in The Messianic Times of equal interest.

 

The day I submitted my proposal to my erstwhile rep, (Christian Manuscript Submissions), this coin came in the mail as an addition to my collection.  Notice that on the obverse it has the Star of David, the Symbol that the Trouble with the Trinity weaves into the perfect representation for God's Triune nature.  Then notice that on the reverse, is the Roman numeral for the number three.  This is of course, the number of members in the Triune Godhead.  Was this a message from God?  I don't know.  Time will tell....

 

                                                                         Obverse                                 Reverse

                                                                                   

 

"The three cent coin has an unusual history. It was proposed in 1851 both as a result of the decrease in postage rates from five cents to three and to answer the need for a small-denomination, easy-to-handle coin. The three cent silver featured a shield on a six sided star on the obverse and the Roman numeral III on the reverse." (link to source of above quote)

 

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I am using this page to temporarily house items that will eventually go on a separate blog for The Trouble with the Trinity.

 

Chapter 11 Appendixes

Appendix 11-A.  Verses Used in Order by Chapter and Topic Appendix 11-A Verses in Chapter Order.docx

Appendix 11-B.  Verses Used in Biblical Order Keyed to Span Appendix 11-B. Verses in Biblical Order Coded to Chapters 3-10.docx

Appendix 11-C. The Occurrences of Red (Adom) & Scarlet Items in the Tabernacle and Its Courtyard Appendix 11-C. The Occurrences of Red (Adom) & Scarlet Items in the Tabernacle and Its Courtyar.docx

Appendix 11-D. The Occurrences of Gold (Zahab) Items in the Tabernacle and Its Courtyard Appendix 11-D. The Occurrences of Gold (Zahab) Items in the Tabernacle and Its Courtyard.docx

Appendix 11-E. The Occurrences of Blue (Tekeleth) Items in the Tabernacle and Its Courtyard Appendix 11-E. The Occurrences of Blue (Tekeleth) Items in the Tabernacle and Its Courtyard.docx

Appendix 11-F. The Occurrences of Bronze (Nekhosheth) Items in the Tabernacle and Its Courtyard Appendix 11-F. The Occurrences of Bronze (Nekhosheth) Items in the Tabernacle and Its Courtyard.docx

Appendix 11-G. The Occurrences of Oil (Shemen) Items in the Tabernacle and Its Courtyard Appendix 11-G. The Occurrences of Oil (Shemen) Items in the Tabernacle and Its Courtyard.docx

Appendix 11-H. The Occurrences of Purple (Argawmawn) Items in the Tabernacle and Its Courtyard Appendix 11-H. The Occurrences of Purple (Argawmawn) Items in the Tabernacle and Its Courtyard.docx

Appendix 11-I. The Occurrences of Linen Items in the Tabernacle and Its Courtyard Appendix 11-I. The Occurrences of Linen Items in the Tabernacle and Its Courtyard.docx

Appendix 11-J. List of All 75 Items in the Tabernacle and Its Courtyard Used as Template for Appendixes 11-C through 11-I Appendix 11-J. List of All 75 Items in the Tabernacle and Its Courtyard Used as Template for Ap.docx

 

Chapter 12 Appendixes

Appendix 12-A. Key Attributes of the Trinity and Their Relationships  Appendix 12-A. Key Attributes of the Trinity and Their Relationships.docx

Appendix 12-B. Template for Scoring Symbols of the Trinity Appendix 12-B. Template for Scoring Symbols of the Trinity.docx

Appendix 12-C. Scoring Sheets for Symbols of the Trinity Appendix 12-C. Scoring Sheets for Symbols of the Trinity.docx

 

Appendix 12-D-i Template for Scoring Icons-TYPE, BACKGROUND, DETAIL; RENDITION; GEOMETRY; SPACING OF THE THREE, and HALOS Appendix 12-D-i Template for Scoring Icons-Setting & Halos.docx

Appendix 12-D-ii Template for Scoring Icons-FATHER Appendix 12-D-ii Template for Scoring Icons-Father.docx

Appendix 12-D-iii Template for Scoring Icons-SON Appendix 12-D-iii Template for Scoring Icons-Son.docx

Appendix 12-D-iv Template for Scoring Icons-HOLY SPIRIT Appendix 12-D-iv Template for Scoring Icons-Holy Spirit.docx

 

Appendix 12-E-i-a. Tricephalous Icons Appendix 12-E-i-a. Tricephalous Icons.docx

Appendix 12-E-i-b. Table of Tricephalous Icons Appendix 12-E-i-b. Table of Tricephalous Icons.xlsx

Appendix 12-E-ii-a. Triandric Icons Appendix 12-E-ii-a. Triandric Icons.docx

Appendix 12-E-ii-b. Table of Triandric Icons Appendix 12-E-ii-b. Table of Triandric Icons.xlsx

Appendix 12-E-iii-a. Throne-of-Grace Icons Appendix 12-E-iii-a. Throne-of-Grace Icons.docx

Appendix 12-E-iii-b. Table of Throne-of-Grace Icons Appendix 12-E-iii-b. Table of Throne-of-Grace Icons.xlsx

Appendix 12-E-iv-a. Psalter Icons Appendix 12-E-iv-a. Psalter Icons.docx

Appendix 12-E-iv-b. Table of Psalter Icons Appendix 12-E-iv-b. Table of Psalter Icons.xlsx

Appendix 12-E-v-a. Paternity Icons Appendix 12-E-v-a. Paternity Icons.docx

Appendix 12-E-v-b. Table of Paternity Icons Appendix 12-E-v-b. Table of Paternity Icons.xlsx

 

These files need lots of work.

Appendix 12-F-i. Emblems of the Trinity Appendix 12-F-i. Emblems of the Trinity.docx

Appendix 12-F-ii. Table of Emblems of the Trinity Appendix 12-F-ii. Table of Emblems of the Trinity.xlsx

 

 

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Today in church, I had a discussion with a sister in the Lord who thought that a sister who was a Jehovah Witness was wrong in promoting the Rapture.  I explained to her that the rapture is a Christian doctrine as well.  I pointed out that there was a better way to show her sister the error of the Jehovah Witness by pointing out the 1000 plus verses scattered throughout the Bible that support the Trinity. 

 

Following is the actual message I sent her:

 

Wendy,  Nice talking to you today.  Here is the passage that the rapture is based upon:

 

1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 New International Version (NIV)

Believers Who Have Died

13 Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, who have no hope. 14 For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. 15 According to the Lord’s word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.

 

The Greek for caught up together, is ἁρπαγησόμεθα (harpagēstha).  It is derived from the root word, ἁρπάζω, (to seize, catch up).  The phonetic spelling is "har-pad'-zo" which you can see is somewhat aligned with raptor, or the Biblical word, rapture.  But the real connection comes when the equivalent Latin word is substituted: "Rapturo."

 

if you want to see more, here is a link to the Greek.  Here is a link to the connection between the Greek and the Latin.  And here is a link to a discussion of the rapture.

 

Bottom line, arguing with your sister about the rapture is not the right strategy, since we want truth to be the basis for all our arguments.  Rather you need to show your sister all the places where the Triune nature of God is clearly laid out in God's Word.  As we discussed, it seems God dispersed these places throughout the Bible rather than collect them all in one place because it is harder to find and change them all. 

 

These places are collated into eight chapters and a couple of introductory and concluding chapters in a book I am prayerfully going to finish and get published this year or next.

 

In the process of preparing chapter 12 (the last chapter) of this book, I am including a review of icons, symbols, and emblems of the Trinity.  Here is an emblem that I found at a web site that is no longer active.   I am adding it here so I can add it to my Pinterest folder, Trinity Icons, Emblems.

17 11 17  Today in my quiet time, I read Acts 21:23-24.  Later in the day, as I was double-checking each reference in the book, I came to the last two references in Chapter 11.  I knew when I had read the passage in Acts that I had to put it at this point in the book, what I didn't know is that I would be taken to this passage in today's effort.  God's timing has been so fantastic.  I had to avoid doing any work on the Trinity for three days as I had to spend each day with Kol, my youngest grandson and he refused to sleep so I could work on the book.  Had none of that happened, I would have gone past the end of Chapter 12 and then had to find it again when I came across the reading in Acts.  This sort of perfect timing has happened again and again.  I am convinced this is God's work.

 

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Here is the outline used in the book

TABLE OF CONTENTS

FOREWORD    4

 

Chapter 1, THE BEGINNING    14

 

Chapter 2, THE TROUBLE     18

 

Chapter 3, IS THE FATHER GOD?     21

GOD THE FATHER     21

GOD AND FATHER     22

GOD OUR FATHER     23

FATHER GOD (OF OUR SPIRITS)     23

LORD FATHER     27

HEAVENLY FATHER     28

SUMMARY     29

 

CHAPTER 4, IS JESUS GOD?     31

GOD THE SON     31

IMMANUEL     33

KINGDOM OF CHRIST AND OF GOD     34

THRONE OF GOD     35

GOD OUR SAVIOR     37

GOD AND SAVIOR     39

I AM     39

IN GOD     42

SON OF GOD     43

MY SON     45

SUMMARY     45

 

CHAPTER 5, IS THE HOLY SPIRIT GOD?

GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT     47

MY SPIRIT     50

SPIRIT OF GOD     53

SPIRIT WHO IS FROM GOD     54

SPIRIT OF THE LORD     54

YOUR SPIRIT     55

HIS SPIRIT     56

HIS HOLY SPIRIT     58

SUMMARY     58

 

CHAPTER 6, ONE GOD, TWO GODS, THREE GODS, MORE?     60

NO OTHER GOD(S)     60

TRUE GOD     62

ONE GOD     62

THE ONE     64

ALONE     66

NO OTHER     68

NO GOD BESIDES GOD     69

NONE LIKE GOD     70

NONE COMPARES WITH GOD     72

HOLY ONE     72

HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL     75

HOLY ONE IN CHARGE     75

BUT MORE THAN ONE GOD?     76

US, WE, AND OUR     77

ONE FATHER, ONE SON, ONE HOLY SPIRIT     78

THE SAME     82

SUMMARY     85

 

CHAPTER 7, IS THE FATHER AND THE SON GOD?

THE FATHER AND THE SON ARE ONE     87

THE SON “IS” THE FATHER     89

THE FATHER AND THE SON ARE EQUAL     90

WHATEVER IS THE FATHER’S IS THE SON’S     93

THE FATHER AND JESUS ARE IN EACH OTHER     97

ONLY JESUS AND THE FATHER KNOW EACH OTHER     99

SEEING JESUS EQUALS SEEING THE FATHER     101

THE FATHER IS IDENTICAL TO THE SON     103

JESUS IS THE FATHER’S SON     105

THE FATHER OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST     107

THE FATHER LOVES JESUS     108

GLORY BETWEEN THE SON AND THE FATHER     110

THE SON IS FROM THE FATHER     113

JESUS SENT BY THE FATHER     114

THE FATHER AND JESUS ARE THE SAVIOR     119

SUMMARY     122

 

CHAPTER 8, IS THE FATHER AND THE HOLY SPIRIT GOD?     124

SOUL OF THE FATHER     124

SPIRIT OF THE FATHER     125

HIS (THE FATHER’S) SPIRIT     125

THE FATHER IS SPIRIT     126

THE FATHER’S SPIRIT IN THE OLD TESTAMENT     127

SPIRIT OF THE SOVEREIGN LORD     128

SPIRIT OF GOD THE FATHER     129

THE FATHER’S SPIRIT IN THE NEW TESTAMENT     129

THE COMFORTER     132

MY OR THE PRESENCE     133

SUMMARY     135

 

CHAPTER 9, IS THE SON AND THE HOLY SPIRIT GOD?     137

THE SPIRIT CONCEIVED JESUS     137

THE SPIRIT AT JESUS’ BAPTISM     138

THE SPIRIT DIRECTS CHRIST’S MINISTRY     138

THE SPIRIT IN JESUS’ DEATH     140

THE SPIRIT IN JESUS’ RESURRECTION     141

THE SPIRIT IN JESUS BEFORE THE ASCENSION     141

COUNSELOR     142

SOUL OF THE SON     146

SPIRIT OF CHRIST     146

JESUS “IS” THE SPIRIT     147

THE SEVEN-FOLD SPIRIT     151

SUMMARY     151

 

CHAPTER 10, IS THE THREE TOGETHER GOD?     153

OLD TESTAMENT PLEURALITY     153

OLD TESTAMENT THREE     157

HOLY, HOLY, HOLY     158

NEW TESTAMENT PLEURALITY     159

NEW TESTAMENT THREE     161

JESUS’ LIFE     161

THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT     164

THE BELIEVER AND THE THREE     164

SUMMARY     171

 

CHAPTER 11, WEAVING THE STRANDS TOGETHER     173

WEAVING THE SPANS TOGETHER, WHAT SHAPE EMERGES?     173

WHY THIS SHAPE?     177

WHAT IS THE GEOMETRY OF THE SHAPE?     178

WHAT ARE THE OTHER NAMES OF THE SHAPE?     179

HOW HAS IT BEEN USED?     185

WHEN AND WHERE WAS ITS EARLIEST APPEARANCE?     186

HOW WAS IT USED INSIDE OF JUDAISM?     193

WHAT OTHER RELIGIONS HAVE USED THE HEXAGRAM?     196

ADOPTION OF THE SHIELD OF DAVID AS THE OFFICIAL SIGN OF JUDAISM/ZIONISM     197

THE SHIELD OF THE SON OF DAVID (THE MESSIAH)     201

EXAMPLES OF ITS BEING MADE OF WORDS     201

EXAMPLES OF ITS LINKING THREE RELATED CONCEPTS     202

DOES THIS SHAPE SERVE AS A SYMBOL FOR THE TRINITY?     204

WHERE DO THE COLORS COME FROM?     205

WHAT ARE THE POSSIBLE RESPONSES TO THIS SHAPE WITHIN JUDAISM?     224

 

CHAPTER 12, UNDERSTANDING THE TRINITY     232

THEOLOGY OF THE TRINITY     232

SYMBOLS AND EMBLEMS OF THE TRINITY     238

ICONS OF THE TRINITY     266

SUMMARY OF SYMBOLS AND ICONS     289

ANALOGIES OF THE TRINITY     289

SUMMARY     294

FINAL THOUGHTS     297

 

Because of the Trinity, I am never alone. I am never just me. Through the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, Whom Jesus sends to believers, I am also indwelt by Jesus who tells the Advocate what to say, and to Whom the Father has given all, and thus by the Father. John 16:6-33. The same is true for you if you agree with the 12 Fundamental Principles of Christianity.

 

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